tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604481147223427499.post3585989539412850798..comments2024-03-28T23:01:35.551-05:00Comments on Beyond the Pale Gate: More Cleric bashing from Yours TrulyDavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17820010482226879079noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604481147223427499.post-666486105859785072012-04-17T10:33:25.884-05:002012-04-17T10:33:25.884-05:00I love the colors of magic idea, along with school...I love the colors of magic idea, along with schools of wizardry a la Dragonlance, the Convocations of the Shek P'var from Harn, and pretty much anything else that differentiates magic-users. However, if I'm going LBB, I prefer those to be role playing rather than strict class things. I'm ok with a player saying he wants to play a "Fire Wizard" and get some small bonus on spells that involve fire, I just don't want a body of rules behind it. I want it to be ad hoc, and I will just as quickly deprive him of it should he stray from his characterization. Another advantage to this approach, for me, is it relieves me of the obligations to detail a lot of this stuff during campaign development. I don't need to come up with detailed pantheons and the unique abilities of their clerics, or wizardly colleges and the benefits that accrue to their students, or whatever. Players can approach me with ideas for their characters and we can one-time it or maybe make it part of the canon for the world.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17820010482226879079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8604481147223427499.post-68007422977645227892012-04-17T09:40:37.259-05:002012-04-17T09:40:37.259-05:00I am actually a big fan of the cleric, though my r...I am actually a big fan of the cleric, though my regard came late. I didn't used to like them very much. I started with 2E, which had priest as a class group and cleric as a particular kind of priest. The other options were druid and "priest of a specific mythos." If you try to fit the round cleric into the square hole of general powerful being servant, I agree it doesn't work very well.<br /><br />The cleric became much more interesting to me after I was exposed to the OSR conversation and started to think of clerics less as clergy and more as demon hunters, crusaders, and holy warriors, not as just someone to whom some powerful being grants powers. The cleric really is very specific; it's not meant to represent as broad an archetype as the fighter, magic-user, or thief.<br /><br />I also like the "colors of magic" approach to magic-users which can access cleric spells as well, though I think that can be used alongside the cleric.Necropraxishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716340801054739658noreply@blogger.com